tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post2622447376894004187..comments2024-01-05T07:41:44.344+00:00Comments on Further thoughts for the day: On black athletic superiorityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-78342686094360234212019-05-29T00:32:25.727+01:002019-05-29T00:32:25.727+01:00One does not see any black athelete domination in ...One does not see any black athelete domination in other field events such as the shotput, the hammer throw, the javilin or the discus. The reason is obvious: Speed and/or quickness is not as important in those events as strenth.<br />Where speed and quickness are what is important, black atheletes dominate, period. From what I have read the reason is black athelets have more of whats called quick-twitch fiber muscles. Also according to an article in the L.A. Times many years ago, Mel Counts a 7 foot white NBA basketball player who played alongside Wilt Chamberlain on the LA Lakers team had a 7 foot reach as well. Wilt who was 7 Ft 1 had a reach the was 7 foot 10 inches (or 2 inches shy of 8 Feet) Any way you look at it, that is an avantage when going for a rebound or getting off a shot! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07398400710180353569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-17685178795013719342018-07-23T19:20:40.652+01:002018-07-23T19:20:40.652+01:00Great article. A must read
Athletic Girls Run The...Great article. A must read<br /><br /><a href="https://khohealth.com/athletic-girls/" rel="nofollow">Athletic Girls Run The World and These Traits Are Why</a><br />Ahne SDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03661027052350232164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-54140089727344290612016-06-27T03:40:05.904+01:002016-06-27T03:40:05.904+01:00The athletes dominating the sprinting world are th...The athletes dominating the sprinting world are the decendants of West Africans that survived the slave ship journey. Usain Bolt, Asafa Powell, Tim Montgomery, Donovan Bailey, Leroy Burrell, Carl Lewis, Ben Johnson and the list goes on.. All descendants of West Africans who survived the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05743696766815694795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-4241569560313566612016-06-27T03:37:48.871+01:002016-06-27T03:37:48.871+01:00The athletes dominating the sprinting world are th...The athletes dominating the sprinting world are the decendants of West Africans that survived the slave ship journey. Usain Bolt, Asafa Powell, Tim Montgomery, Donovan Bailey, Leroy Burrell, Carl Lewis, Ben Johnson and the list goes on.. All descendants of West Africans who survived the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05743696766815694795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-16812025406163668762013-06-12T10:49:48.700+01:002013-06-12T10:49:48.700+01:00Two Points: Your own example disproves your thesis...Two Points: Your own example disproves your thesis. Compare the bell-curves for women and men...For some reason you have no difficulty admitting that men are taller (typically) than women are. <br /><br />Yet the same bell curve shows that IN-group differences between women and men are wider than the BETWEEN group differences. That does not disqualify your conclusion, in your own arguments.<br /><br />This is the same result that you quote for various genetic markers...that within-group variation exceeds between-group variation...<br /><br />but in the one context you want to claim no meaningful differences when you want to deny the role of genes.<br /><br />The gap in height for men and women which you accept and endorse as meaningful is not that different from the Racial Gaps for IQ scores and Standarized Test scores like the SATs and ACT.<br /><br />The patterns of variability are pretty much the same...but in one context you clearly admit that a genetic basis applies, but you use the very same distribution of differences to argue that NO genetic basis applies in sports or IQ or college success.<br /><br />Very self-serving analysis you have there.<br /><br />Second:<br /><br />If all that explains Black athletic success is Socioeconomic, and due to sports being the way out of the ghetto, then how do you explain that American Blacks do not have much success in other athletic endeavors, like distance running and swimming...Those domains are wide open opportunities that Blacks normally do not succeed at to the same degree. <br /><br />Why don't all those Black kids who cannot make the football team try running the 5,000 meters? Running is running, isn't it? (no, but you want to claim it is).<br /><br />Like it or not, body-type plays a significant role in which sports success will be more likely to be found.<br /><br />Like it or not, there are biological/genetic factors which predispose Blacks descended from West Africans to excel in certain sports involving sprinting/jumping, while Blacks descended from East Africans excel in the stamina-related distance races.<br /><br />Your reasoning is little different from the racists when you selectively interpret data in only the way which supports your agenda.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-44961675621596358472012-08-17T12:09:23.800+01:002012-08-17T12:09:23.800+01:00Wouldn't you also need to look at the proporti...Wouldn't you also need to look at the proportions of people in just beneath top level compared to the top to determine the impact of genetics as well. Simply because at most levels beneath the very best hard work and upbringing will have a greater impact. <br /><br />In contrast, at the olympics, winning margins can be easily inside 1% and so any genetic advantages start to become the difference between gold, silver, bronze etc.<br /><br />Essentially, at the olympics the average distribution of characteristics in a population doesn't matter, only the distribution at the end of the scale (although social factors still enable the optimisation of those at the ends [see Jamaica]).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-47473474328782310972012-08-16T19:30:26.245+01:002012-08-16T19:30:26.245+01:00Then why don't we see minorities of similar so...Then why don't we see minorities of similar socio-economic status to blacks also gravitating toward basketball. For example, we don't see many latino players in the NBA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-66058867462229198252012-08-16T16:08:13.679+01:002012-08-16T16:08:13.679+01:00Kenya also has another dedicated program that iden...Kenya also has another dedicated program that identifies talented recruits early, in a sport played by everybody as much as running, with a strong incentive and desire nationally and by the athletes to succeed. <br /><br />It's called soccer, and Kenya is always trounced by the west african nations.<br /><br />In genetics, there is a always a range of genes that impact a given trait or set of traits. Really good fast twitch muscles on a gigantic 400 pound man is pretty useless. There's body shapes as well, muscle/fat distribution.<br /><br />Sprinters are born, but to a lesser degree, so are elite distance runners. There are some people out there that can run far faster on a month's training than 90% of a local 10K field.<br /><br />Of course you fall back on the assumption that saying that black athletes tend to be better athletes means ALL black athletes are better than white athletes, which is stupid. Most sane people inherently understand the bell curve aspect of genetics. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-737796616576642422012-08-16T15:07:32.684+01:002012-08-16T15:07:32.684+01:00As far as environmental factors that lead to black...As far as environmental factors that lead to blacks dominating sports, use your imagination. More black families than white occupy lower socio-economic standing in the US, so when choosing sports, black children typically gravitate towards low-cost sports such as football and basketball, whereas typically white families can afford for their children to play baseball or hockey. As a result we see more black athletes in the NFL and NBA and fewer in the NHL and MLB. This is one example and there are many more possible explanationsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-59702157288369769692012-08-16T11:29:41.905+01:002012-08-16T11:29:41.905+01:00Thanks for the comments all, and for the link Anon...Thanks for the comments all, and for the link Anonymous #4.<br /><br />I bet that, like the graph of height above, the centre of gravity is generally higher for those of West African decent, but that there is some overlap. However, the point I was trying to make is that people think that black people are naturally better athletes - whatever the sport.<br /><br />Maybe those of West African decent do make better sprinters - but it seems unlikely to me, as, for example, there aren't any well known Brazilian sprinters. It's the influence of being in Jamaica or USA at the moment - the systems set up there for training sprinters etc.English Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04472815676266826531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-9016269500638531782012-08-16T03:57:02.045+01:002012-08-16T03:57:02.045+01:00Olympic Bodies: They Just Don't Make Them Like...<a href="https://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/08/09/158448224/olympic-bodies-they-just-dont-make-them-like-they-used-to" rel="nofollow">Olympic Bodies: They Just Don't Make Them Like They Used To (NPR)</a><br /><br />"Runners with higher centers of gravity can fall forward faster — and the taller you are, the higher your center of gravity.<br /><br />Athletes of West African descent have a center of gravity that is 3 percent higher than Europeans, and they tend to dominate sprinting events."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-71929683147200218712012-08-16T03:53:43.362+01:002012-08-16T03:53:43.362+01:00Well put. This is a hard argument to make because ...Well put. This is a hard argument to make because it requires so much data to be convincing. Malcolm Gladwell talks about this kind of thing in "Outliers," but relates it to specific people – Bill Gates, for example.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-18948336105861266332012-08-15T22:07:13.863+01:002012-08-15T22:07:13.863+01:00>If 98% of Jamaican's have the ACTN3 gene, ...>If 98% of Jamaican's have the ACTN3 gene, while only 82% of whites, then I think I can still say that Jamaican's, and maybe blacks in general, are better athletes.<br /><br />Not true. 1. There's still environmental factors. 2. Jamaicans aren't "all blacks." 3. ACTN3 gene =/= "better athletes. <br /><br />Oh, and he did state environmental SES & stereotype threats as a reason why black athletes are more represented in America. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4304574086397404369.post-46115230936084081942012-08-15T20:43:23.133+01:002012-08-15T20:43:23.133+01:00Ok, but you never really explained what environmen...Ok, but you never really explained what environmental factors lead to blacks dominating sports. You said a little about the Kenyan's but that's it. <br /><br />If 98% of Jamaican's have the ACTN3 gene, while only 82% of whites, then I think I can still say that Jamaican's, and maybe blacks in general, are better athletes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com